[The unofficial English translation of the text that was published in Russian]
Turkey’s top diplomat calls for lifting all trade restrictions against
Russia
Mevlut Cavusoglu told TASS about Ankara's stance on Syria, shared
his opinion about Turkish stream and Akkuyu projects, and possible
easing of trade restrictions against Russia
- The year 2017 was a landmark for both Russia and Turkey. How do
you evaluate the political dialogue between Moscow and Ankara? How
would you estimate the importance of bilateral collaboration for
the region and for the world as a whole? What are the key issues on
the agenda today?
Turkey and Russia are good partners. We have deep-rooted social and
cultural ties that bring us closer. Our economies complement one another,
and in the energy sector, there is a huge potential for growth. Therefore,
we must create the necessary conditions for our people to use this
tremendous potential.
From a broader perspective, we also have regional and global
responsibilities. What Turkey and Russia have achieved in terms of curbing
the bloodshed in Syria is a clear example of making a change for the
better.
Our agenda today is to prepare for the bilateral and trilateral summits
that we will be hosting next month in Turkey. I am sure that our bilateral
and regional cooperation will get stronger in the upcoming period.
Apart from political and economic aspects of our cooperation, 2019 will be
reciprocally celebrated as the “Turkey-Russia Culture and Tourism Year.”
Our Ministers of Culture signed the Declaration of Intent on 10 March 2017
during the visit of our President to Russia.
- Russia, Turkey and Iran are guarantors of the Syrian ceasefire,
and de-escalation zones began to be set up in May. In your point of
view, what is the role of Russia in resolving the conflict and
maintaining peace? What are your prospects on the matter?
More than a year ago, we started the Astana meetings together with Russia
and Iran. Our common goal was to improve the situation on the ground
through a nationwide ceasefire. The three countries have established a
fruitful working relationship that we made possible despite our differing
visions on the future of Syria.
We focused on our common ground to start this partnership: we all respect
Syria’s unity and territorial integrity. We all support a political
solution to end the conflict. We all agree on the need to combat terrorism.
We succeeded in establishing de-escalation areas in Syria, and we helped
reduce the level of violence on the ground.
It is natural that each guarantor may have its own priorities or red lines.
As Astana guarantors, we respect each other’s red lines. That’s why we
adopt our decisions by consensus.
The Astana mechanism still has a lot to contribute to international efforts
for ending the Syrian conflict. We will continue our cooperation with
Russia and Iran on the Syrian conflict.I will meet my Russian and Iranian
counterparts in Astana this Friday (16 March). This will be the first
Astana meeting at the Ministerial level. We will take stock of the recent
developments regarding Syria, and we will exchange views on how to give a
push to the political process, in light of the conclusions of the Sochi
Congress.
We will also address issues related to the de-escalation areas., and we aim
to hold the first meeting of the Working Group on the release of detainees.
The previous Trilateral Presidential Summit (22 November 2017) paved the
way for holding the Syrian National Dialogue Congress in Sochi. The
Congress contributed to the Geneva process by calling for the establishment
of a Constitutional Committee.
We are planning to host the next Trilateral Presidential Summit in Turkey
in early April. Our leaders will discuss ways on how to further join our
efforts to contribute to a political solution in Syria.
- The Pentagon made a statement saying that Turkey’s operation
Olive branch in Afrin “is not helpful and threatens to damage the
ongoing fight against Islamic State militants.” Nevertheless, it
seems like the battle with DAESH is very close to its end.
According to the statement of the US Secretary of Defense James
Mattis, Washington is not considering halting its support for
Syrian Kurds and starting to take back the weapons given to the
YPG. How would you comment on this? When do you expect the USA to
stop arming the YPG and PYD in Syria?
First of all, I must make clear that there should be no room for terrorist
organizations in Syria’s future. This is essential for restoring stability
in Syria. Turkey is committed to fight against all terrorist organizations
in Syria, including DAESH and PYD/YPG. Turkey is capable and determined to
eliminate any threats targeting its territory.
We always emphasized that collaboration with PYD/YPG, even for tactical
reasons, was a grave mistake. Such short-term tactical actions have become
a source of instability. PYD/YPG-controlled territories in all of Syria
should be returned to their real owners. The Counter-DAESH Coalition-led
stabilization efforts in the eastern Euphrates will lack legitimacy as long
as PYD/YPG is involved in these efforts.
During US Secretary of State Tillerson’s recent visit to Turkey, we agreed
to establish a result-oriented mechanism. Our technical delegations
gathered in Washington last week (8-9 March) for the first meeting of the
Turkey-US Working Group on Syria. We had a fruitful dialogue on specific
issues. We are willing to continue this dialogue, and we aim to deliver
tangible results on the ground as a result.
- President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s spokesperson İbrahim Kalın has
said that the intelligence agencies of Turkey and Syria can get in
direct or indirect contact to solve certain problems in the field.
Can you tell us if this kind of partnership has taken place
previously? If it has not then how can it be realized in practice?
Presidential Spokesperson Ambassador Ibrahim Kalın talked about the
possibility of intelligence agencies’ getting into contact related to
specific issues on the ground. This is among the tasks of all intelligence
agencies. Contacts among intelligence officials related to practical
matters cannot be interpreted as political dialogue.
- In December, construction of the Akkuyu nuclear power plant began
under a limited license in Turkey. How do you see the future of the
project, and what can be done in order to enhance and broaden
cooperation in the domain?
The construction of the Akkuyu nuclear power plant will be a first step for
Turkey in the use of nuclear energy to generate electricity.
We are determined, as are our Russian partners, to see this project
through. There is strong will and commitment on both sides to make the
first reactor operational by 2023. We will hold a groundbreaking ceremony
soon to mark the launch of the construction phase of the project.
Energy, including nuclear power, is one of the main pillars of our
excellent bilateral relations. Our cooperation based on a “win-win”
approach will continue to expand and deepen in this field.
- 48 percent of the offshore segment of the Turkish stream pipeline
has already been laid. What are the benefits of the project for
Russia, Turkey, and the region? How would you estimate our
collaboration in the field? What other potential projects can be
fulfilled in the foreseeable future?
The TurkStream Project is progressing as planned. The construction of the
off-shore section of the pipelines will be completed according to schedule.
We are also working together to finalize the onshore sections as well.
The TurkStream project is to the benefit of both Turkey and Russia. It will
contribute to the energy security of Turkey, and it will enable the direct
purchase and transport of gas from Russia. A direct line is to the
advantage of both the consumer and the producer. Plus, the second line of
the TurkStream will enable Russia to export volumes of gas to other
interested European buyers.
Russia is Turkey’s largest supplier of gas. Our partnership in this field
has withstood the test of times, and our cooperation in this field will
also continue. We are open to future projects as long as they are
economical, based on a win-win approach, and contribute to regional peace
and prosperity.
- Trade and economy have always been the basis and the traditional
key fields of our bilateral ties. What are your prospects for this
year? Could you kindly provide us with exact numbers of
Russia-Turkish trade?
Russia is our primary trade partner in terms of not only energy but also
mutual investments, tourism, agriculture, and other sectors. The latest
trade figures indicate that our commercial relations follows a positive
trend. Our bilateral trade volume increased by 30 percent, reaching 22
billion USD in 2017, according to official figures.
We need to abandon all restrictions on trade to deepen our commercial
relations. We are jointly working hard towards that goal through major
projects in energy and defense. But we should also keep an eye on improving
business relations at the micro and macro levels.
I hope that 2018 will witness further consolidation of our commercial ties
with the conclusion of the Trade in Services and Investment Agreement.
- Turkey and Russia signed an accord for Moscow to supply Ankara
with S-400 surface-to-air missile batteries, finalizing a deal set
to deepen military ties between two countries. This S-400 deal is
reportedly worth some 2.5 billion US dollars. Are Russia and Turkey
envisaging other deals and agreements in military technical
cooperation?
If and when there is a new development, you will be the first to know.
- Turkey is one of the most favorite places for Russian tourists.
And as summer is just around the corner, many of our fellow
citizens would like to know: what measures have been undertaken to
ensure security and to boost the figures of cooperation? What are
the prospects of facilitating a visa regime between two countries?
My hometown is Antalya. Tourism and agricultural relations with Russia have
a key role in my electoral district. I am glad to see that last year’s
tourist flow from Russia to Turkey exceeded the figures of previous years,
with a total of 4.7 million in 2017.
We are cooperating with Russian authorities at the technical level on
tourism security. We pay the utmost attention to the safety and well-being
of Russian tourists while they are our guests in Turkey.
4.7 million is a big number of tourists. When certain incidents occur, we
need coordination and timely sharing of information to deal with situation.
This is also important to prevent misperceptions.
I suppose our cooperation on the tourism front has erased particular
concerns. I am happy to learn that we would even go beyond the 2017 figures
this year.
In 2019, we will celebrate the Culture and Tourism Year in Turkey and
Russia. Cultural as well as promotional activities in each country
throughout the year will certainly contribute to attracting more Russian
tourists to Turkey and vice versa.
It goes without saying that “people-to-people contacts” are an important
part of our multi-faceted relations. The Visa Waiver Agreement, signed in
2010, provided us a concrete basis to strengthen the social, economic, and
cultural ties between our two countries.
Russian ordinary passport holders enjoy a visa-free regime to visit Turkey,
and we never suspended the visa-free travel to Turkey for Russian citizens.
While Russian ordinary passport holders enjoy this visa-free regime, our
citizens unfortunately cannot benefit from visa-free travel to Russia.
In order to further enhance our cooperation in various fields, the Visa
Waiver Agreement should be reinstated and fully implemented, with all its
provisions.
- In 2019, Russia and Turkey are to hold reciprocal years of
culture and tourism. And as far as we know, a Turkish cultural
center is to open in the coming days. Could you kindly tell us what
the mission of the center is and what is the role of cultural ties
between our two nations?
An agreement was signed between our countries in 2012 to establish cultural
centers initially in Ankara and Moscow. The Russian Cultural Center resumed
its duties in 2014. Due to some minor issues, we initiated the process of
establishing Yunus Emre Cultural Center in 2017.
As a matter of fact, our center opened its doors as of February 19, 2018.
Next week, there will be an official opening ceremony with the
participation of our Minister of Culture and Tourism.
There is a huge potential for bilateral cooperation in the field of
culture. Turkey and Russia recently made great progress as to cultural
cooperation by completing necessary legal background.
During the visit of President Erdoğan to Russia in March 2017, our two
Ministers of Culture signed a Declaration of Intent on 10 March 2017 to
celebrate 2019 as the “Turkey-Russia Culture and Tourism Year.”
To this end, the first Joint Working Group convened on 30 January-1
February 2018. We have suggested to hold the next meeting on 15 May 2018 in
Ankara, and we are expecting our Russian friends’ positive response.
Preparations are underway to celebrate “Turkey-Russia Culture and Tourism
Year” not only in Moscow but also in other cities of Russia. Turkey is
preparing various programs to attract participation. We hope that the
Russian press will support the programs to be presented by Turkey and give
extensive coverage of the cultural activities.
This event will be an excellent opportunity to raise awareness among
Turkish and Russian societies. It will certainly lead better understanding
and a rapprochement among our two peoples.